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Glad it was helpful! Maybe it’s worth it for a month or so?

I was also able to confirm a 3rd great grandparent with a tree on Ancestry after taking the Ancestry DNA test.

Wow! Be sure to put an alert note on those folks and check the box so they are posted at the top.

😏 I hope not but wonder if that will be the case!

Boy Kim that’s a common one. I did a video about that. It went from basically just write something in the description box to how to do a full citation.

@@AncestryAimeeI’ll watch that video Aimee and maybe I can do better. Thanks for the encouragement!

It’s either this video Inserting Citations (for BETTER family history) ua-cam.com/video/uFEDOZ_0Sug/v-deo.html

Or this one The Most Important Tip for GOOD Genealogy = Sources (+ My SOURCE WRITING HACK) ua-cam.com/video/B2BuD0EGBgE/v-deo.html

Keep in mind that Ancestry will do what's best for THEM. And they've determined THEY'RE better off charging us extra for it. And if they HAD included it in the membership, you can betcha they'd have RAISED THE PRICE of the membership. So which do you prefer? At least now the people who don't want it aren't having to pay for it.

I agree with Sylvia. But you aren’t alone in your feelings Max.

They say it’s coming soon. 🤞

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Yes. That’s true.

You’re not alone in that desire!

Yes. True when you purchase your test from them.

@@AncestryAimee No, I uploaded a test I had taken at 23andMe. I never purchased a test from MyHeritage.

Not yet. Ancestry said ProTools will be rolling out to other countries soon.

Glad it is helping you!!

Isn't it a privacy issue? Why someone else should be able to identify my biological parents and grandparents?

@@tomask1436 Yes, there is a privacy issue. People have taken secrets to their graves, such as a child having a surprise father. People like me can dig up that secret. I once identified a surprise father even though the baby, his bio-mother, his bio-father, and the man who raised that baby had all been dead for years. All it takes is a knack for crunching numbers, an ability to use logic, some patience, and sufficient data. Back to the privacy issue . . . I believe that the need to know biological medical history is more important because it can literally be the difference between life and death. I am speaking from personal experience here. Knowing my biological medical history saved my life. I believe that everyone should have that opportunity. Biological family history changes the rules as to which screening tests are necessary when. If people don’t know that, they will be dying when they don’t have to. As fond as I am of privacy, I do believe that life and death are more important. Keep in mind that no one has full access to your DNA results unless you give it to them. But, depending on the results, I could tell whether or not you are someone’s surprise half brother. That happens all the time.

@@tomask1436 People need to know their biological medical history. It can literally be the difference between life and death. I speak from personal experience.

@@tomask1436 yes in other words you don't need a paternity test exactly ? It takes two to tango so to speak , guess you just don't do a test at all and maybe hire private firm so you make sure you want to get involved , Maybe your just talking about genealogy line in general , I ddon't know

Great question! I heard Crista Cowan of Ancestry say that was NOT possible at the moment. Much of it is based on Thrulines which we know can be an issue when trees are incorrect. Put it in your tree correctly and that may help the algorithms correct those relationships.

It’s the David Rumsey Map Collection www.davidrumsey.com

Completely agree on all points. I have similar situations in my roadblocks which matches are further up the tree. I have found that it is assisting me in building the matches tree so I can hopefully better start to see how they are all related and then perhaps figure it out but I’m not there in those instances yet either.

I’ve heard they are working on rolling it to other countries soon. Hopefully soon is soon.

You're so welcome! Glad Richard’s Goldie May is helping you.

I agree! It’s helped me as well. So glad you’ve figured it out and had some success.

I agree that the ability to sort other ways would be very helpful. It’s helped me a bit already. But it was in cases where I only had 1-2 dozen matches in that group. I find it easy to skim down looking for the match to have a close relationship to somebody.

@@AncestryAimee The problem with that is you can't really tell, by looking at the list, which one of our matches only has 1-2 dozen shared matches (as opposed to 500). You don't know that until you go in. Very time-consuming.

That’s true

@@AncestryAimee So I plan to CANCEL Protools before it can renew for a second month. But I WILL resubscribe once Ancestry improves the sorting capabilities. Hopefully you'll give us a heads-up when they do that.

@@sylviabargas3340 I will.

I'm so glad!

Actually, it WILL help. It's the only way you can figure out some of these no-tree matches.

@sylviabargas3340 oh great. I have close connections, but no trees and they dont know either, or haven't replied. That's fantastic if it can help detangle!

@@SockGrlz Yeah, and it's MOST useful when the relationship it identifies is a CLOSE one, such as Person A is the DAUGHTER or Person B. It's much less useful when it tells you Person A is the Third Cousin Twice Removed of Person B. The problem, though, is that Ancestry hasn't included good sorting tools. So you may have to look through dozens and dozens of shared matches, one by one, before you find the one that's the daughter.

I couldn’t have said it better than @sylviabargas3340! Hope it helps you @sockgriz with those no tree matches!

Well, they ARE a for-profit company. Did you think they were a charity or 501c3?

I definitely encourage people to at least get their trees on Geni. I’ve made way more connections on there than anywhere else

@@runemasterhariwulfaz5267 Yeah, but it's not free--even if you have a MyHeritage membership. Is Geni any better than FamilySearch (which is free)?

@@sylviabargas3340 If the company is for-profit does it mean that it must screw users as much as possible?

I’m hearing a lot of frustration and you’re not alone but I agree with @sylviabargas3340 it’s a for profit company. They have made a great deal of pricing changes lately. Perhaps they will realize it was an error to move as they have but I do know the ProTools angle was to only bill the folks interested in those features. Reach out to Ancestry and let them know your thoughts.

That means, for example, the same great-grandmother but different great-grandfathers (because she was married twice).

@@sylviabargas3340 Most of them the common ancestry was not married more than once. Pryor to this the only half’s were from mistakes in their tree.

@@sylviabargas3340 Like on thrulines.

@@sylviabargas3340 These are matches of matches and all of a sudden become half cousins.

@sylviabargas3340 that can be the case.

Sorry about that. I haven’t heard that from other viewers but appreciate the info!

That a tough one. Paper trails, particularly for out of marriage relationships are difficult. Multiple DNA matches and then paper trails of proximity are usually the best it can be.

Wow! Great work!

You’re welcome. I don’t know about segment data. I don’t disagree, but I’ve heard it’s unlikely. Who knows! Hope it helped you break down some walls!

Here's an idea they could give us a triangulation tool. If not, the segment data, at least let us know that we all share the same common ancestor without giving us the exact segment information

@@robarsenault1025 Actually, they were supposed to do that. In the video from RootsTech, they said there would be a Triangulation Tool. But I'm not seeing it. Maybe that gets added later.

@robarsenault1025 boy have i heard that alot! I’ve heard they won’t do that for privacy reasons (see this video: ua-cam.com/video/piBSYeWCIls/v-deo.htmlsi=gtBk-3B_Jn53O8Tj)

I would love to hear how that goes! Keep me posted

I understand your frustration and maybe Ancestry won’t be the leader in a few years. MyHeritage does offer the same comparison. But the size of their database is tough to argue. You certainly aren’t alone in your frustration.

They've taken the paywall to extreme and have ruined the hints section. Now because you can't even clip images without a subscription, people are uploading their own, so now there's 100s of copies of the exact same thing in hints. Ancestry indexes the records, but users added a lot of information and that should all be free. Images should be free.

@@AncestryAimee True. This tool is only as good as the size of the database.

@@sylviabargas3340 Larger size do not automatically mean higher quality. Since this feature from Ancestry does not even include triangulation and information about the shared segment, it is practically unuseful unless your goal is to just randomly connect as many people as possible to your tree. But people are paying and paying...

It is funny. MyHeritage provides it for many years. If people had tested with MyHeritage for these years, their database would grow and everyone would have such features for ages. But those who said that feature is not useful or privacy issue before, are now "excited" 😀

It has changed over the last few years. I understand your frustration.

I don’t think so, although that’s a good idea. Ancestry are you listening? The matches are listed by the amount of DNA you share with them, not the match. Crista Cowan recently said they are “very soon” going to have it available in Canada and the UK.

I am thrilled that this feature finally exists in Ancestry! I have been asking for it for years since I saw it as a standard feature in my heritage. I’ve been writing to ancestry about it and a few other things I wish they’d add (the ability to create more grandparent couple groups to group our dna matches and for them to revert to showing more shared matches (instead of needing the shared match to share 20cm to be a shared match, I’m hoping they’ll reduce that number back to 7cm that I believe they used to use as a shared minimum cm amount to show a third person as a “shared” match. Anyway I’m very happy with this new addition even if so far I’m having to pay the extra $10 but I do hope it becomes a standard feature cause it’s really a game changer

Oh, the pro tools are available in Canada. I just did not know how to find them. The trick is to search for pro tools on Google and then you can sign up. Strange how it wasn't in the upgrade link

@robarsenault1025 good to know!

If they add the chromosome browser one day, it will surely requires another SuperExtraProfitTools subscription which you will be able to order only if you order their DogDNA 😀😀

I understand your frustration but… they have the biggest DNa database and many records not found elsewhere. I wish they would look at pricing options more.

Glad it was helpful!

Wow, thank you! So glad it helped you.

Deeds are valuable, no matter where you find them. I’m not as familiar with Canada, but I do know that they do have deed indexes. However, with full text searching available now, it’s even easier to check Canadian deeds. I have a video coming out on that next Saturday.

You should be able to build the tree for free, but access to the records is what costs and it’s kind of hard to build a tree without records.

Ethnicity is an estimate, but there could be errors in your tree as well.

Could be. Autosomal DNA isn’t as helpful that far back. If you have relatives alive in an earlier generation, parents or grandparents or aunts or uncles ask them to test at Ancestry. You might want to take. Y-DNA test to trace your paternal line. That test you can do. And it will go much further back.

@@AncestryAimee thanks for that advice truly. Yeah I have a 95 year old uncle who is skeptical of testing but I'm going to try and convince him. My mother as well at least if we have her that's a generation closer.

@terranceof2007 that will definitely help!